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Poster: smgarcia Date: Apr 12, 2008 7:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

A friend of mine wanted me to give her some Grateful Dead since she didn't have any. So....I decided to make her a "mix tape" LOL, which in reality will be one DVD worth of music. DVD's can hold 4.3 GB so that is my limit. The really cool thing is you can make a playlist in iTunes, put anything you want in it, and easily burn a DVD with one click of a button. So simple!

I've called this Essential Grateful Dead for lack of a better phrase.

Now, I gave her a sample of GD from 1969 - 1995, but I favored some eras over others. We all like different parts of GD so I know many of you would object to the following 20 "Best Of..." concerts. But this is what I picked and was curious of any impressions. Plus I only have about 250 shows in my iTunes and I didn't want to go digging around forever on archive.org to find other songs or shows...

Also note that it was more important for me to find great sounding shows than great shows that have poor sound. If you want to get someone into the Dead, I think they have to hear them at their soundboard best.

1969-10-25 - Winterland Arena, SF, CA (SBD)
1972-07-16 - Dillon Stadium, Hartford, CT (SBD) (last 3 songs...)
1972-08-27 - Old Renaissance, Veneta, OR (SBD)
1973-02-09 - Roscoe Maples Pavilion, Palo Alto, CA (SBD)
1974-02-24 - Winterland Arena, SF, CA (SBD)
1974-05-21 - Edmundson Pavilion, Seattle, WA (SBD)
1975-03-23 - Kezar Stadium, SF, CA (SBD)
1976-06-03 - Paramount Theatre, Portland, OR (SBD)
1977-02-26 - Swing Auditorium, San Bernardino, CA (SBD)
1977-05-08 - Barton Hall (Cornell U), Ithaca, NY (Matrix)
1977-05-25 - The Mosque, Richmond, VA (SBD)
1977-10-02 - Paramount Theater, Portland, OR (SBD)
1978-04-24 - Horton Field House, Normal, IL (SBD)
1980-10-10 - Warfield Theater, SF, CA (SBD) (just acoustic set)
1982-08-03 - Starlight Theater, Kansas City, MO (Matrix)
1984-10-09 - The Centrum, Worcester, MA (SBD)
1989-10-08 - Hampton Coliseum, Hampton, VA (SBD)
1989-10-09 - Hampton Coliseum, Hampton, VA (SBD)
1991-09-20 - Boston Garden, Boston, MA (SBD)
1995-03-18 - The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA (SBD)

Lastly, I had some space left over on the DVD and I wanted to include key Dead songs that were not a part of the shows above. So I made my own GD concert. This was a really cool exercise! I wanted to choose songs but also versions that would blend from the end of one song to the beginning of another. It was kind of hard to do but I'm really happy with the results. My show:

Set One:

Hell In A Bucket - 1989-07-19 - Alpine Valley Music
Touch Of Grey - 1990-03-16 - Capital Centre
Shakedown Street - 1981-12-31 - Oakland Auditorium (fuckin' rocks!)
Lazy Lightnin' > - 1977-06-08 - Winterland Arena
Supplication - 1977-06-08 - Winterland Arena
Playin' In The Band > - 1977-05-04 - The Palladium
Comes A Time > - 1977-05-04 - The Palladium
Playin' In The Band - 1977-05-04 - The Palladium

Set Two:

I Need A Miracle - 1978-11-24 - Capitol Theater
The Wheel - 1981-08-28 - Long Beach Arena
Spanish Jam > - 1981-08-28 - Long Beach Arena
The Other One > - 1977-05-18 - Fox Theater
Jam (Ken Kesey's Eulogy For Bill Graham) + > - 1991-10-31 - Oakland Coliseum
Slipknot! > - 1977-04-23 - Springfield Civic Center
Fire On The Mountain - 1977-04-23 - Springfield Civic Center

Encore:

Good Lovin' - 1977-10-29 - Field House, IL
Brokedown Palace - 1977-05-18 - Fox Theater
And We Bid You Goodnight - 1974-02-23 - Winterland Arena

I know this is heavy on the late 70's, but that's what I like!

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Poster: jerkwaterdan Date: Apr 12, 2008 10:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

I would find room for 2/14/68, (since you have no '68) and 11/7/71 (makes ya howl like a hippie) and at least one show from 1970 like 5/2/70, 2/13/70 or 2/14/70.
As for 1969 I couldn't imagine a better show than 2/28/69!
For 1976 set 2 of 7/18/76

This post was modified by jerkwaterdan on 2008-04-13 05:49:15

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Poster: smgarcia Date: Apr 12, 2008 11:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

Wow Dan...I don't have any of those shows, and it would take a herculian effort to get those down seeing as they stream the SBD's now (one can retrieve them but it will take some time.)

I do have the second set from 7-18-76 and I seriously considered that. What an amazing set.

I think I might boot one of the mid 80 shows. I never liked them anyway.

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Poster: jerkwaterdan Date: Apr 13, 2008 4:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

Well let see, 2/13/70 2/14/70 and 5/2/70 are all Dicks Picks. Thought you might have those. And 2/28/69.
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Poster: smgarcia Date: Apr 30, 2008 6:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

Well guys I completed the DVD a week or two ago and my friend was extraordinarily happy with it. She absolutely loved it...and she tells me about the songs she likes and doesn't like. I even listened to 5-11-72 Dark Star with her which she loved.

This is what I ended up with:

1968-10-12 - Avalon Ballroom, SF, CA (SBD)
1969-10-25 - Winterland Arena, SF, CA (SBD)
1970-09-19 - Fillmore East, NYC, NY (SBD)
1971-08-06 - Hollywood Palladium, LA, CA (AUD)
1972-07-16 - Dillon Stadium, CT (SBD) (last three songs)
1972-08-21 - Berkeley Community Theater, CA (SBD)
1973-02-09 - Roscoe Maples Pavilion Palo Alto, CA (SBD)
1974-02-24 - Winterland Arena, SF, CA (SBD)
1974-05-21 - Edmundson Pavilion Seattle, WA (SBD)
1975-03-23 - Kezar Stadium, SF, CA (SBD)
1976-06-03 - Paramount Theatre, Portland, OR (SBD)
1977-02-26 - Swing Auditorium, San Bernardino, CA (SBD)
1977-05-08 - Barton Hall (Cornell U), Ithaca, NY (Matrix)
1977-05-25 - The Mosque, Richmond, VA (SBD)
1977-06-09 - Winterland Arena, SF, CA (SBD+)
1978-04-24 - Horton Field House Normal, IL (SBD)
1980-10-10 - Warfield Theater, CA (SBD) (acoustic only)
1984-10-09 - The Centrum, Worcester, MA (SBD)
1989-10-09 - Hampton Coliseum, Hampton, VA (SBD)
1991-03-31 - Greensboro Coliseum, Greensboro, NC (SBD)
1994-10-01 - Boston Garden, Boston, MA (SBD)

And I made her a show that I called "The Concert That Never Was..."

Set One:

Hell In A Bucket > - From 1989-07-19 - Alpine Valley Music
Touch Of Grey > - From 1990-03-16 - Capital Centre
Iko Iko - From 1995-03-18 - The Spectrum
Shakedown Street - From 1981-12-31 - Oakland Auditorium
Lazy Lightnin' > - From 1977-06-08 - Winterland Arena
Supplication - From 1977-06-08 - Winterland Arena
Playin' In The Band > - From 1977-05-04 - The Palladium
Comes A Time >- From 1977-05-04 - The Palladium
Playin' In The Band - From 1977-05-04 - The Palladium

Set Two:

I Need A Miracle > - From 1978-11-24 - Capitol Theater
The Wheel > - From 1980-11-30 - Fox Theater
Spanish Jam > - From 1981-08-28 - Long Beach Arena
The Eleven > - From 1969-04-05 - Avalon Ballroom
The Other One > From 1977-05-18 - Fox Theater
Jam (Ken Kesey's Eulogy For Bill Graham) + > - From 1991-10-31 - Oakland Coliseum
Slipknot! > - From 1977-04-23 - Springfield Civic Center
Fire On The Mountain - From 1977-04-23 - Springfield Civic Center

Encore:

Good Lovin' - From 1977-10-29 - Field House, De Kalb
Brokedown Palace - From 1977-05-18 - Fox Theater
And We Bid You Goodnight - From 1974-02-23 - Winterland Arena

I'm happy with this, but about a week later I got the 1973 Winterland Box set and I now would have replaced Roscoe Maples with 11-11-1973. And I also gave her (separately) 5-11-72 Rotterdam because it's such a great show.

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Apr 13, 2008 4:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

Cool exercise, I would say add a nice '73 They Love Each Other and a smokin' Bertha.

But that's Just me

It's nothing, they explain
It's like a diesel train
Better not be there when it rolls over
And when that train rolls in
You won't know where it's been
You gotta try to see a little further

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 13, 2008 3:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

Hmmm...I wonder what you've been listen-ning to lately.

Okay, broken record and all that but here's my out of this thread suggestion (taking nothing away from ALL the effort that has gone into this, which is great):

Give them Workingman's Dead, Am Beauty and Live Dead.

Done.

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Poster: JamminJerome Date: Apr 14, 2008 9:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

For me, man, one essential pick for someone looking to get into the Dead is 3/29/90. It's beautiful. My fiancee, who does not particularly enjoy the Dead, enjoys listening to this show.

That's my only suggestion, as long as you are including stuff from the early era. Everybody gets into different things. I first got hooked on Live/Dead, and what keeps bringing me back to the Dead is the early stuff (67-69 in particular), even though I do love a lot of the other stuff as well.

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Poster: another one Date: Apr 12, 2008 9:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

i think you have to throw out the 95 show and add 10/1/94.. this show actually gets decent rotation for me (the only post-91 show that does)

also i think 7/7/89 should defenitly replace 10/8/89 (the jams are just better, period), and throw out one of the 77 shows and add 6/9/77 (how else can she understand H>S>F?)... i also think the second set of 6/9/76 should replace 6/3/76, but thats just me

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Poster: smgarcia Date: Apr 13, 2008 12:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

Anotherone, I now realize why I included that 95 show...it has the most rippin' Iko Iko that I've ever heard. The rest of the show is pretty good, but I wanted an Iko that just wants to make you get up and dance. It's really good.

Maybe I'll take out that show, add Iko Iko (and The Eleven) to my "personal concert", and then add the 94 Boston show that I'm listening to now. It's pretty good and I'm happily surprised at the Scarlet > Fire transition.

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Poster: smgarcia Date: Apr 12, 2008 10:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

Ok, I have the 10-1-94 show! I'm going to listen to it now and see how it is. I don't have the 7/7/89 show, I guess I could dig it up from LMA. I personally am pretty happy with the two Hampton shows.

Now...I did realize I left off 6/9/77. That is a fabulous recording. It's simply awesome. it's really loud. H>S>F is a great version (however I am partial to 2/24 Swing, even more so than 6/9). Anyway it's a great show.

I choose a bunch of 77 because 1) I think they are the best sounding recordings on the website, besides some of the 89-95 shows) and those jams in the late 70's were more formed, with rhythm, than the earlier shows. My personal preference. But I agree with other posters that I need one or two more early shows like from 70 or 71.

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Poster: Morning Dewd Date: Apr 12, 2008 9:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

Not even one from 1970?!

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Poster: smgarcia Date: Apr 12, 2008 11:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

I know, I'm trying to fix this. There is only so much space I can fit on one DVD. But I guess if she likes this I can always burn her another one. LOL

It's tough trying to figure out what to eliminate. I will remove one of the 77 shows (but I also want to add 6/9/77...), will remove one of the Hampton shows too. This is tough!

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Apr 12, 2008 9:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

You have some nice shows in there (5-21-74, 6-3-76, 2-26-77, 5-25-77, 4-24-78) but you've also included iconic but overrated shows (8-27-72, 2-9-73, 5-8-77). You apparently have 6-8-77 in your ipod, but you didn't include the whole show or 6-9-77?

A few other shows that I'd put before many in your list:

1968: 2-14, 10-12, 10-13, 10-20
1969: 4-4, 4-5, 4-12, 4-13 (any sound better and play better than 10-25)
1970: 1-2, 4-12, 5-15, 9-19, 10-31 (nothing from 1970?)
1971: 2-18, 4-28, 4-29, 8-6 (nothing from 1971?)
1973: 9-11, 10-25, 10-30, 11-21
1976: 6-9, 10-15
1978: any of the October Winterland shows

All sound great as well as play great. I would have mentioned others, but I assume from your list that you're steering clear of commercial releases.

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Poster: smgarcia Date: Apr 12, 2008 10:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

Hi Lou...this is what I have from your suggestions:

1968: 10-12 (I'm listening to this now and I forget how great the Dead were in their earlier years)
1969: 4-5
1970: 5-15 (early and late, this one is certainly iconic too), 9-19
1971: 2-18, 8-6 (I have an AUD)
1973: 9-11
1976: 10-15
1978: 10-21 (I like this one but I don't think it's a great recording...)

I guess I'm sensitive about the whole sound quality for my friend because I at one point was like that. I aimed for the top recording shows because my appreciation level of the Dead was only superficial. I got caught up in hiss, unbalanced mixing, shit like that. Now my tolerance is much lower as I know how to listen to the band. So I'm trying to be careful if that makes sense.

The other thing...why do you think Veneta is overrated? I can see Barton being overrated but frankly I think it is by far, the most superior sounding gig (the matrix version). Plus you get what I consider A+ efforts from Mountain Dew, Scarlet > Fire, Dancin', Lazy > Supp, Deal that are very hard to exceed from other shows. Yep it's all subjective. I think the concert as a whole is not as great as people say it is however.

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Apr 13, 2008 4:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

You may want to add at least 1 item from fall of 79 to keep somedarkhollow happy.

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Poster: northstar dead Date: Apr 13, 2008 9:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

Funny about 5/8/77 always being mentioned as overrated. Was listening to the first set of that fine show last night. I just don't get it. Sometimes people read and hear about something and start believing it themselves. If someone gave you 5/8/77 on tape without any knowledge of the show, you are telling me you would think,"this is an o.k. show and way overrated?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 13, 2008 1:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

I am not being an asshole. I did exactly this. Well, actually, it was long before I knew about this show (ten yrs ago), long before LMA. A fellow knowing of my fall from grace, said he had five shows from 76-79 that would bring me back (don't recall the others).

They were all on cassettes, but they were pretty darn good sounding (he had a great system). But, I am sorry to say, all five left me confident in having turned away from the boys, and to focusing on the early era. I thought they were all "OK to worthwhile" but that was it.

Strange, I know, but sorta funny once I got here two yrs ago and found out how important that show was!

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Poster: northstar dead Date: Apr 14, 2008 7:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

Different sound but same band. So the sound evolved as the Dead did. I can appreciate all the different years for what they were. Come on dog enjoy some 70's and 80's shows. Don't turn your back on some great stuff.

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Apr 13, 2008 2:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

The entire Spring 1977 run is fantastic, so of course Barton Hall is a great show. But there are several shows from that tour that I enjoy listening to more than it, including all shows from the March and June Winterland runs and the week of 5-18 to 5-25. As I said earlier, Barton Hall is exceptionally tight and clean but too conservative for my tastes.

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Poster: northstar dead Date: Apr 13, 2008 5:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

Agree, 77 is such a strong year. And so many great shows. I love the June Winterland shows, Buffalo, Swing, Chicago, Springfield, Hartford etc... Just a question, when is the last time you listened to the show? I am not saying it is my favorite show ever, not by a long shot. But the vibe was there that night.

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Apr 13, 2008 7:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

I've listened to discs 2 and 3 within the past year, but disc 1 not so recently (and I promise to do so soon). I agree with you about the vibe, but I'm a bloodless aesthetician looking for musical interest much more than atmosphere.

Another judgment that has long bewildered me is the celebration of the 8-6-71 Hard to Handle. Pig's much weaker than in any number of 1970 renditions. And Jerry's guitar solo, while stirring (especially in the aud, where you hear how worked up everyone's getting), has very little musical content. By contrast, the solo the night after entertains me more even though it's not as solid.

This post was modified by Lou Davenport on 2008-04-14 02:14:21

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 14, 2008 8:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

Yikes Lou! We agree on so much...I find Jerry's work on this in my top five all time...AUD defn lends to that.

Ah well--if we all agreed everytime it wouldn't be worth coming round here, would it?

Hope all is well!

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Apr 14, 2008 12:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

If you want ideal examples of what aspects of Jerry's playing I most enjoy, you could listen to practically any minute of the Winterland 1973 box (damn, I'm enjoying that set!), which I believe you own--but in particular the Me and Bobby McGee and Eyes from 11/11. The M&BM is one of the most astonishing performances of anything I've ever heard.

I've been crazy busy and am nursing a mild head cold, but generally I'm enjoying life--thanks for asking. And yourself?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 14, 2008 1:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

Well, thanks.

Hah--do appreciate the work of Jerry on that 73 set. See exactly what you mean. Truth is though, I prefer the "punch" to his sound from the 71 versions of most of those same songs. The 73 is almost a bit too polished, a bit too jazzy, though I doubt that makes much sense. My friend who is a long time lead guitarist said "fall of 73 is where Jerry is a musicians lead guitarist" and though I don't know entirely what that means either, I have a sense of it...I know from conversations with MSun here that I often go for sounds based on energy and punch rather than pure proficiency, and I know you well enough to know you probably see/hear things I cannot too, just as MSun can...

Like I said--that's why we are here. To hear ourselves talk, and to pick up some education now and again.

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Apr 14, 2008 1:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

Energy and punch? Well, that's why you're so obsessed with the 12-29-68 The Other One. BTW, have you listened to 2-27-69 TOO recently? I did a few nights ago, and it struck me as Phil's equivalent of what Jerry was doing on 12-29-68.

Jazzy is what I most love from the boys, though I also like the fierce edge of 68-69, but best when they're also being jazzy, as in the 3-1-69 TOO or in the jamming in New Potato Caboose.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 14, 2008 1:24pm
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LOL; yep, that's it!

Will have to check out the Fillmore OO you mention again...

Also recalled that the bass player I knew (these two were in the band I worked for as a low rent roadie) also thought of 73 as the peak.

I can accept that in many ways the boys got better, and better, and may have peaked in 73 (77?) rather than 68-70 for a number of aspects...suppose that at times it is almost apples/oranges when I am saying "68 is best!" as I am talking about something a bit different, as you note.

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Poster: smgarcia Date: Apr 12, 2008 11:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

Then again....8/6/71 is a great AUD. Jesus

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Apr 13, 2008 7:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

What you say about the importance of sound quality is reasonable. The shows I recommended are all at least A- sound, but I think you may be going for A across the board. IIRC, 10-21-78 has the worst sound of the available SBDs of that run, but I also see your point about sticking with what you already have. After all, 250 shows should provide at least a few good ones to start with (not quite lol).

Given your mission, how about "Grateful Dead Starter Kit", rather than "Essential Grateful Dead"?

I echo Ashes in commending you for giving of your time to evangelize in this way. Listening to the Winterland 1973 box, I've found myself feeling sorry for all the people who have no idea of all the amazing, creative music those guys produced.

I think Veneta is a perfectly decent show from a few weeks before some much better shows (the best of which, however, have been released commercially and so may be off your list). The Playin' smokes, but I find the Dark Star a bit boring.

Barton Hall is an exceptionally clean and tight show, but Jerry in particular plays conservatively, going for can't-miss licks rather than exploring new possibilities, so there's not much to keep me interested. The much-ballyhooed Scarlet>Fire is a perfect example of that. The Dew is sketchy until the last few minutes, which do indeed rock. All of that said, I have to acknowledge it would be a good show for newbies.

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Poster: smgarcia Date: Apr 13, 2008 11:51am
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Lou, Grateful Dead Starter Kit is perfect. I'm going to use that. Thanks for the suggestion!

So I've added:

1968-10-12 - Avalon Ballroom, SF, CA (SBD)
1970-09-19 - Fillmore East, NYC, NY (SBD)
1971-08-06 - Hollywood Palladium, LA, CA (AUD)
1976-07-18 - Orpheum Theatre, SF, CA (SBD) (second set only as it's so unique).
1977-06-09 - Winterland Arena, SF, CA (SBD+)

and I booted one of the Hampton 89 shows, and the 10-2-1977 gig.

Now, regarding the Veneta show, I actually prefer the one a week earlier at the Berkeley Community Center (1972-08-21) as that Playin' In The Band is one of my personal favorites and I think that show overall has a more upbeat tempo and energy than Veneta. I'm considering swapping that one. Are you familiar with 8-21? Besides that I have 07-21-1972 and several Europe 1972 ones.

Speaking of Euro 1972, I have a handful of shows but I just haven't gotten around to listening to them in detail. So I'm not sure what's really good. I have:

1972-04-14 - Tivoli Theater
1972-05-03 - Olympia Theater
1972-05-11 - Rotterdam Civic Hall, Rotterdam, Netherlands (SBD)
1972-05-16 - Radio Luxembourg
1972-05-23 - The Strand Lyceum, London, England (SBD)
1972-05-26 - The Strand Lyceum

Lastly, I don't own any of the commercially released shows so I can't include them in this starter kit. :-)

This is so much fun, I've spent a ton of time over the past few days working on this. I just don't have enough space on the DVD! It's quite challenging, actually.

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Apr 13, 2008 2:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

I remember all the August Berkeley shows as having great playing, but it's been a while since I've listened to them, so they kind of blend together in my mind. I think I remember one of the shows having lesser sound quality than the others, but I can't remember which.

Most of my Europe 72 listening lately has been from the commercial releases. And the shows that stick out in my mind from non-commercial sources aren't in your list, except for Rotterdam, which has an amazing (longest-ever) Dark Star, but that may not be appropriate to a starter kit and the sound quality is only A-.

You're probably already thinking of this, but to keep your friend from being overwhelmed I'd point her to something like the top three shows to get started with. I personally would have her start with 5-25-77 since the first set is so astonishingly tight and the sound is so clean.

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Poster: smgarcia Date: Apr 13, 2008 2:33pm
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Lou you are reading my mind. I have already constructed a GD Starting Kit Listening Guide. In the document I write a few quick notes about the band but then I say "If you only want 3 concerts to go on your iPod then take Veneta, Cornell, and Hampton 89" (I think it was Hampton but can't remember.)

I also give a brief description for each show, why I put it on there, and any nice tidbits. It really is a nice document. The top three might change...I am so enamored with 5-25-77 but Cornell is like Mt. Everest. It may not be the best mountain or most challenging to climb but it is the most famous. Know what I mean?

I'm also considering swapping Veneta for Berkeley. My Berkeley copy is fantastic. I don't know. It's like swaping 1a for 1b.

And for the guy who mentioned 10-1-94, this really is a very good show. I think I'm going keep it. But I am going to include Iko Iko from Spectrum 95, The Eleven, and a version of The Last Time on my "special" GD concert.

This whole thing brings me happiness. I started listening to the Dead about 3 years ago and it's the only thing I turn on now. They are such a talented, special band. Nothing compares as far as I know.

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Poster: AshesRising Date: Apr 18, 2008 1:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

smgarcia: I wish there were people like you in this world.

--- AshesRising

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Poster: Stealz Date: Apr 12, 2008 9:07pm
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I think your selections are quite nice and should do the trick, but to be honest I'm more enamored by the whole recording to DVD?!?. Obviously (as a result of my shock) I'm not as tech savvy as many, if not most, but I have a ton of blank DVDs that I once thought I'd burn videos to but have never been able to figure out how and I'm much too cheap to make it easy for myself.

It's a bit emabarassing, being able to burn songs to a CD but nothing to a DVD. I don't have iTunes, nor do I have a desire to, but are there other ways to burn shows to a DVD?

Sorry for being so vague in my question, but I'm not familiar with burning to DVDs enough to ask specific questions.


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Poster: smgarcia Date: Apr 12, 2008 10:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

Hi Stealz, anything you can burn to a CD you can burn to a DVD. A DVD is not just for movies, it can be treated as a bigger storage device. A CD can hold like 750 MB, a DVD can hold 4.5 GB, and your standard hard drive can hold 100 GB.

Movies always come on DVD's because there is so much "data" that must be stored that a CD wouldn't cut it.

To burn a DVD you must have a DVD burner. All new computers these days should have a DVD burner pre-installed. If you have an older computer (> 5 yrs old) then you probably won't have it.

You can use any DVD burning software to burn a DVD (and there are dozens out there.) My computer came with one application called Roxio Creator. However iTunes can burn DVD's (and CD's) too and it's so unbelievably simple. I did waste 2 DVD's getting it just right (but they are cheap, you can get 3 DVD's at Walgreens for $2). But now I know what you are doing. If you don't use iTunes to manage your music then I think there is no point downloading it.

So I would 1) check to see if you have a DVD burner, 2) check to see if you have DVD burning softare, 3) if 1 and 2 are true, then you are ready to go!

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Poster: smgarcia Date: Apr 12, 2008 11:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

Hmm...I guess DVD's can hold 4.7 GB of data. That's even better for me! I have a little more room to add some good stuff!

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Poster: AshesRising Date: Apr 13, 2008 12:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

smgarcia: Incredibly gracious act of kindness to provide your friend with this gift... In my mind, it's perfect as is... You have your reasons for each selection and that's all that matters. "Set Two" of your "concert" is wild... nice job.

For whatever it is or is not worth: I would introduce people to the band via Jerry's Band ....primarily '76 - '78 (w/Keith on the keys). [w/two cuts from "Live at the Keystone, '73" ."Pos 4th St.," & "Like a Road"] ...naturally they would get Hunter as well, but I'll leave that alone here.

"Got to share in December what you planted in May,"
--- AshesRising

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Poster: smgarcia Date: Apr 13, 2008 12:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

Thanks Ashes. It's been a lot of fun. I don't see why I can't make this available to other people too in the future. All on one disc, easy to burn and send off. First I need to complete it!

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Poster: smgarcia Date: Apr 13, 2008 12:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

OH yea, the second set of my "own concert" is pretty cool. The transition from the Ken Kesey rap to Slipknot! is simply a work of art. No one could tell the difference. It's a short set and I'm considering adding one or two more songs, but I'm trying to figure out what. I love The Eleven and I'm going to see if I can fit that in. Hmm....